Llamacpp imatrix Quantizations of Qwen3.5-397B-A17B by Qwen

Using llama.cpp release b8192 for quantization.

Original model: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.5-397B-A17B

All quants made using imatrix option with dataset from here

Run them in your choice of tools:

Note: if it's a newly supported model, you may need to wait for an update from the developers.

Prompt format

<|im_start|>system
{system_prompt}<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>user
{prompt}<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
<think>

What's new:

Should be last update

Simplified the recipe, everything got a little bigger so if you were using IQ2_XXS for example you now probably want IQ1_M, slightly smaller with slightly better KLD, also still has this change:

ssm_alpha.weight and ssm_beta.weight are TINY tensors, [5120, 48]

With mainline, they get quantized to whatever the target of the model is (so Q4_K for Q4_K_M, IQ2_XXS for IQ2_XXS etc)

Here, I'm upcasting them to F32 (would do bf16 but it's slower on some hardwares), which is less than 2 MiB per layer

Additionally, ssm_output.weight was being set in the same way, so I used the use_more_bits function in llama-quant.cpp to cast it up to Q4_K for quants smaller than IQ2_M and Q8_0 for the bigger quants

Download a file (not the whole branch) from below:

Filename Quant type File Size Split Description
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q8_0.gguf Q8_0 421.58GB true Extremely high quality, generally unneeded but max available quant.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q6_K_L.gguf Q6_K_L 342.76GB true Uses Q8_0 for embed and output weights. Very high quality, near perfect, recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q6_K.gguf Q6_K 342.27GB true Very high quality, near perfect, recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q5_K_L.gguf Q5_K_L 283.89GB true Uses Q8_0 for embed and output weights. High quality, recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q5_K_M.gguf Q5_K_M 283.26GB true High quality, recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q5_K_S.gguf Q5_K_S 274.06GB true High quality, recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q4_1.gguf Q4_1 249.10GB true Legacy format, similar performance to Q4_K_S but with improved tokens/watt on Apple silicon.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q4_K_L.gguf Q4_K_L 242.63GB true Uses Q8_0 for embed and output weights. Good quality, recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q4_K_M.gguf Q4_K_M 241.87GB true Good quality, default size for most use cases, recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q4_K_S.gguf Q4_K_S 232.97GB true Slightly lower quality with more space savings, recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q4_0.gguf Q4_0 228.53GB true Legacy format, offers online repacking for ARM and AVX CPU inference.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-IQ4_XS.gguf IQ4_XS 212.30GB true Decent quality, smaller than Q4_K_S with similar performance, recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q3_K_XL.gguf Q3_K_XL 190.37GB true Uses Q8_0 for embed and output weights. Lower quality but usable, good for low RAM availability.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-IQ3_M.gguf IQ3_M 189.63GB true Medium-low quality, new method with decent performance comparable to Q3_K_M.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q3_K_L.gguf Q3_K_L 189.48GB true Lower quality but usable, good for low RAM availability.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q3_K_M.gguf Q3_K_M 181.62GB true Low quality.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q3_K_S.gguf Q3_K_S 173.06GB true Low quality, not recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-IQ3_XS.gguf IQ3_XS 172.51GB true Lower quality, new method with decent performance, slightly better than Q3_K_S.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-IQ3_XXS.gguf IQ3_XXS 166.34GB true Lower quality, new method with decent performance, comparable to Q3 quants.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q2_K_L.gguf Q2_K_L 140.62GB true Uses Q8_0 for embed and output weights. Very low quality but surprisingly usable.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q2_K.gguf Q2_K 139.63GB true Very low quality but surprisingly usable.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-IQ2_M.gguf IQ2_M 133.28GB true Relatively low quality, uses SOTA techniques to be surprisingly usable.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-IQ2_S.gguf IQ2_S 120.66GB true Low quality, uses SOTA techniques to be usable.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-IQ2_XS.gguf IQ2_XS 118.72GB true Low quality, uses SOTA techniques to be usable.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-IQ2_XXS.gguf IQ2_XXS 106.57GB true Very low quality, uses SOTA techniques to be usable.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-IQ1_M.gguf IQ1_M 91.60GB true Extremely low quality, not recommended.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-IQ1_S.gguf IQ1_S 82.02GB true Extremely low quality, not recommended.

Embed/output weights

Some of these quants (Q3_K_XL, Q4_K_L etc) are the standard quantization method with the embeddings and output weights quantized to Q8_0 instead of what they would normally default to.

Downloading using huggingface-cli

Click to view download instructions

First, make sure you have hugginface-cli installed:

pip install -U "huggingface_hub[cli]"

Then, you can target the specific file you want:

huggingface-cli download bartowski/Qwen_Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-GGUF --include "Qwen_Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q4_K_M.gguf" --local-dir ./

If the model is bigger than 50GB, it will have been split into multiple files. In order to download them all to a local folder, run:

huggingface-cli download bartowski/Qwen_Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-GGUF --include "Qwen_Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q8_0/*" --local-dir ./

You can either specify a new local-dir (Qwen_Qwen3.5-397B-A17B-Q8_0) or download them all in place (./)

ARM/AVX information

Previously, you would download Q4_0_4_4/4_8/8_8, and these would have their weights interleaved in memory in order to improve performance on ARM and AVX machines by loading up more data in one pass.

Now, however, there is something called "online repacking" for weights. details in this PR. If you use Q4_0 and your hardware would benefit from repacking weights, it will do it automatically on the fly.

As of llama.cpp build b4282 you will not be able to run the Q4_0_X_X files and will instead need to use Q4_0.

Additionally, if you want to get slightly better quality for , you can use IQ4_NL thanks to this PR which will also repack the weights for ARM, though only the 4_4 for now. The loading time may be slower but it will result in an overall speed incrase.

Click to view Q4_0_X_X information (deprecated

I'm keeping this section to show the potential theoretical uplift in performance from using the Q4_0 with online repacking.

Click to view benchmarks on an AVX2 system (EPYC7702)
model size params backend threads test t/s % (vs Q4_0)
qwen2 3B Q4_0 1.70 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 pp512 204.03 ± 1.03 100%
qwen2 3B Q4_0 1.70 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 pp1024 282.92 ± 0.19 100%
qwen2 3B Q4_0 1.70 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 pp2048 259.49 ± 0.44 100%
qwen2 3B Q4_0 1.70 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 tg128 39.12 ± 0.27 100%
qwen2 3B Q4_0 1.70 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 tg256 39.31 ± 0.69 100%
qwen2 3B Q4_0 1.70 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 tg512 40.52 ± 0.03 100%
qwen2 3B Q4_K_M 1.79 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 pp512 301.02 ± 1.74 147%
qwen2 3B Q4_K_M 1.79 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 pp1024 287.23 ± 0.20 101%
qwen2 3B Q4_K_M 1.79 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 pp2048 262.77 ± 1.81 101%
qwen2 3B Q4_K_M 1.79 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 tg128 18.80 ± 0.99 48%
qwen2 3B Q4_K_M 1.79 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 tg256 24.46 ± 3.04 83%
qwen2 3B Q4_K_M 1.79 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 tg512 36.32 ± 3.59 90%
qwen2 3B Q4_0_8_8 1.69 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 pp512 271.71 ± 3.53 133%
qwen2 3B Q4_0_8_8 1.69 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 pp1024 279.86 ± 45.63 100%
qwen2 3B Q4_0_8_8 1.69 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 pp2048 320.77 ± 5.00 124%
qwen2 3B Q4_0_8_8 1.69 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 tg128 43.51 ± 0.05 111%
qwen2 3B Q4_0_8_8 1.69 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 tg256 43.35 ± 0.09 110%
qwen2 3B Q4_0_8_8 1.69 GiB 3.09 B CPU 64 tg512 42.60 ± 0.31 105%

Q4_0_8_8 offers a nice bump to prompt processing and a small bump to text generation

Which file should I choose?

Click here for details

A great write up with charts showing various performances is provided by Artefact2 here

The first thing to figure out is how big a model you can run. To do this, you'll need to figure out how much RAM and/or VRAM you have.

If you want your model running as FAST as possible, you'll want to fit the whole thing on your GPU's VRAM. Aim for a quant with a file size 1-2GB smaller than your GPU's total VRAM.

If you want the absolute maximum quality, add both your system RAM and your GPU's VRAM together, then similarly grab a quant with a file size 1-2GB Smaller than that total.

Next, you'll need to decide if you want to use an 'I-quant' or a 'K-quant'.

If you don't want to think too much, grab one of the K-quants. These are in format 'QX_K_X', like Q5_K_M.

If you want to get more into the weeds, you can check out this extremely useful feature chart:

llama.cpp feature matrix

But basically, if you're aiming for below Q4, and you're running cuBLAS (Nvidia) or rocBLAS (AMD), you should look towards the I-quants. These are in format IQX_X, like IQ3_M. These are newer and offer better performance for their size.

These I-quants can also be used on CPU, but will be slower than their K-quant equivalent, so speed vs performance is a tradeoff you'll have to decide.

Credits

Thank you kalomaze and Dampf for assistance in creating the imatrix calibration dataset.

Thank you ZeroWw for the inspiration to experiment with embed/output.

Thank you to LM Studio for sponsoring my work.

Want to support my work? Visit my ko-fi page here: https://ko-fi.com/bartowski

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